Well I know that in my case, I probably wasn't your good dub. I got baptized at 14 (what a mistake). When our group went out on service in the winter, I some times sat next to this baptized girl that was my age 15. Her mom would carry a blanket in the car because sometimes the heater would go out. So there i was with a big blanket covering the girl and myself in the backseat. Her mom was so involved in a theocratic conversation with the sister in the front seat, that she would at times completely ignore us in the back. And i'll tell you what ... It wasn't the blanket keepin our hands warm. How I look back and thank the elders for stressing the correct dress code for our young sisters. I progressively got worse from there.....
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Are witnesses any better?
by freedom96 inas a whole, i believe most witnesses to be pretty good people.
misguided, sure, but overall, decent people.. what i want are opinions on how good they actually are.
for example, i went to a non-denonimational church recently.
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God's name
by freedom96 inever notice how as a witness, you could not say "god" by itself.
always had to be preceeded by jehovah, or just say jehovah.
i remember my ex telling me that was the first sign that they knew i was on the way out, because i would refer to god simply as, "god".
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Did Jesus ever call his Father by his first name...hummm.. let me see... NO! If you read the in the New Testatment, when Jesus would pray, he would always call "Jehovah" Father. This seems to me the proper way to identify Him
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Your input please
by AuntieJane inyesterday i posted a letter i intend to write to the marysville newspaper (from a posting by nathan natas).
i was hoping to get some input from you all, and there is nothing thus far.
maybe it got buried early.. just asking for a bit of help; i don't do things like this often but feel compelled to write.
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I think that it would be a great idea. Send it. I am planning to write my own article and hope to send it to all the newspapers in my home town. I hope that they print it once I am finished with it. It's time to let the whole world know about these evil secret organizations.
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Witnesses And Their Obsession With Bible Names
by ColdRedRain ini was just thinking about all my old witness friends and how many of them have weird bible names.
i mean, who the hell outside of a witness would name their child "ephriam" or "hezekiah" or "elijah"?.
i guess they don't have to worry about being picked on by the kids at school for their names because most witless kids don't go to school anymore, lol.
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Please read theocratic treason part 2. Tell what you think
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THEOCRATIC TREASON PRT. 2
by paulie34 inthis is windrider,.
this will probably be my last post.
there is no reason any longer to use my time in this forum to present any research i have made that may be able to save lives.
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Come on guys! Let's have some ideas! Remember David vs. Goliath? Give windriver every reason to stay and help us. Let's keep the momentum growing. Why not fight fire with fire.
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THEOCRATIC TREASON PRT. 2
by paulie34 inthis is windrider,.
this will probably be my last post.
there is no reason any longer to use my time in this forum to present any research i have made that may be able to save lives.
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I am with you windriver. We all need to be activist. It doesn't help to attack one another. We need to learn from the past and remember what methods worked to achieve an end result ie. civil rights protest. These people in the ivory tower have ruined hundreds of the thousands of lifes. They have stolen from us. Grandparents, Mothers, Fathers, Sisters, Brothers. They have divided us. They have physically and psychologically abused us. How much longer are we going to stand by the side lines and just watch the parade go by? I am guilty of this. Are you. What are you willing to give to finally make this tower crash to the ground? Money? Time? Blood? Sweat? Tears? There have been alot of brave people out there who have sacrificed alot to save us from the borg. They have spend hours of research. printed books. set up internet sites. All so that people likes us could have the information on the borg at the click of a button. These old men have pretty much ruined my life. I may be down but I am not out. I have just recently found out about the abuse that own sister endured. My own mother is pleading for my sister to go to the meetings even though she is the one who did not stop my own father from peeping on my sister when she would take a shower. Or sneak in here room and touch her in her sleep. She was almost raped by a M.S. when she was visiting his daughter. My brother was later molested by this same "brother". My mom should have turned in that son of a bitch when he tried raping my sister. Then this mother f?cker would have never touched my brother. These are the things I have just recently found out about. I AM MAD. HELL TO THAT, I AM F$CKING FURIOUS. When are we all going to unite under one banner to fight the good fight? When are we going to say Enough IS Enough? We all have similiar stories. One word sais it all, ABUSE. We have all been abused by this excuse of a religion. Does it help to pick at each other? Think about it...
Windriver please dont give up. I beg you. please keep helping us.
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Hola Gente
by Victor_E inhola gente hispana,.
con todo el pedo de los testigos estamos viendo que mas y mas gente hispana esta abriendo los ojos y saliendo.
tengo una pregunta para ustedes, no les gustaria tener una seccion aqui en este foro de idioma castellano?
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Creo que esa una buena sugerencia. You sali de una congregacion Hispana en Houston, Tx. En los Estados Unidos hay mucha gente de habla espanol. Creo que si ellos pudieran leer historias y experiencias en su idioma, les ayudaria mucha a poder ver lo que es "La Verdad" de la "Suciedad Watchtower".
TRANSLATION...GOOD IDEA
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I finally opened my eyes
by Texas Apostate inhi from houston,.
after 2 months of investigating the wts, i have finally confirmend what my heart and mind told for a long time.
i have kept up with the post in here during that time, and i want to say thank you to all.
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Thank you everyone. Reading your welcomes is great. I really felt I had to tell my story. Life has been hard to adjust till now. My wife is my insperation. For a while I thought i was going crazy. I was moody. Tried to please my mom. Didn't know what was in store for me. The only thought was if I'm going to die (Since I was df'd) then i might as well do what ever i want. Her patience, her compassion is what saved our marriage. She never bashed the JW's even when she would at times go with me to the meetings. Al she would do is ask questions. We would go to the meetings (same congregation i got df'd at). There are still brothers and sisters there that remember me from my childhood. I would sit in the back with her and my daughter. When the meeting ended people would come over and say hi to my wife and would go ga-ga over my beautiful daughter. They wanted to hold her. Touch her long hair. Admired the beaautiful dresses. All the while i am not 12 inches from them and they completely ignore me. Some would just smile. When we left, and we were in the car, my wife would tell me how uncomfortable she felt in there. And "how can they just ignore you like that". I would justify the shunning saying "well is just that i sinned 7 years ago". She would say "why do they care for something you did 7 yrs. ago. Looking back I see how ridiculous i sounded trying to justify JW treatment. Oh well, today is the beginning of my new life. J Rizo. I can't believe that is you. I must have listenend to your Judicial Meeting audio 10 times. If only I would have know then I would have taped mine too. Thanks 1 million times over.
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I was a JW child
by CBeMe inmy mother started studing with the jw's when i was 2 years old.
she became more involved with the organization over the next few years.
i was very young so i don't remember much about my early years in the jw's.
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Hi there i am new here too, and like you a JW child. I have just posted a brief of my life also. I can definitly relate to you. Believe me you are not alone in the world.
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I finally opened my eyes
by Texas Apostate inhi from houston,.
after 2 months of investigating the wts, i have finally confirmend what my heart and mind told for a long time.
i have kept up with the post in here during that time, and i want to say thank you to all.
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Hi from Houston,
After 2 months of investigating the WTS, I have finally confirmend what my heart and mind told for a long time. I have kept up with the post in here during that time, and I want to say thank you to all. A short history of myself. I am 27. My mom & dad started studying with JW's when I was 3. Grew up in the org along with my now 25 yr sis and 21 year bro. Both my parents where baptized in late 70's. I was what you could consider a zeolous young JW in the making. I got baptized at 15 (peer pressure) and DF'd at 18 (Mom turned me into the ss police). I have since married and my wife and I have a 4 yr girl. I never took to another religion (since in my mind I thought JW's were the only "true religion"). Mom suggested to me 3 months ago that I should really look into some spiritual upbringing for my daughter. I guess she believed that I was going to get reinstated after enduring some humilliation at the hands of the congregation. After discussing things over with my wife (never a JW) we decided to look into our spirituatl needs. I started to remember all of the things about my chilhood (I blocked out alot). Good memories and bad. I remember that i was happy as a young child, but as i got older and after my baptism things just kept getting worse. I remember things that happened to my sis. Over hearing conversations of brothers and sisters and my parent's. Things that happened to my bro. I told my self that if i was going to put my daughter through all that i went through then i had to make sure that the JW's were all they claimed to be. At about that time my wife and I bought a new house. At the closing I heard the TV comercial about Dateline and the JW's. I didn't get to see it the day it came on, and I actually forgot about it. A month went by, and mom again made the comment about spiritual needs of the family. The first thing that popped in my mind was "I missed the Dateline show about JW's". I told myself that i would search for it on the Internet. I found it. I saw it. And I cried in my office. I went to Silentlambs.org. checked it out. I search more info on the net. By the way I have had the internet at my hands for the last 6 years and I did see that there where quite a few X-JW websites. I never went to them before, because I was still going off and on up until 2 years ago and would listen to their scare tactics about apostates on the net. After 2 months of surfing most "apostate" sites, reading "Crisis of Conscience", seeing the "Dateline" "Panorama" shows, going to an EX-JW meet-up, I am fully deprogrammed. My mind is finally clear. I bought my wife the book "Awakening of a Jehovah's Witness" so that what could get a glimpse of JW mentality. It has not been an easy road by no means, but i am glad to know that I am FREE. My life story, like most of ya'lls is full of hurt and pain. I am learning day by day to let go of those pains. What of the rest of my family you say? Well lets start out with Dad. Dad was disfellowshipped (drinking alot) when I was 16 and promptly re-instated after 6 months of humiliation, only to get DF'd again 2 years ago (alcoholism). He is still out, and still believes all the WTS crap. He still drinks and goes on 1 week drinking binges from time to time (I now know why, all the JW pressure). Mom is still a good JW. She aux. pioneers every month. She wanted to be a reg. pioneer, but the elder would not let her (2 Df'd family members). She still talks to me. I have tried to tell her about what i found out. She won't listen. I understand why. Sis never got baptised and is married to a "wordly guy". She stopped going to the meetings when she got married 3 years ago, but because of my mom still believed all the JW propaganda. Until I started telling her about what I found out. My mom was hoping to start a book study with my bro-in-law, I guess hoping he and my sis would become faithful JW's. I blew that study good-bye when i presented to them my evidence last week. Bro was never baptised and from time to time still goes to the meetings with my mom. I tried talking to him about what I found out, and he is kind of scared of what i am telling him. I know that my mom has the pressure on him. Only time will tell what is going to happen to this family. Everything is coming to a boiling point. When i mentioned to my sis about the pedophile stuff, she began to tell me about a brother who tried to rape her and his daughter actually was telling my sister to let him do it so that he would leave them alone while she was barricading the door of her "friends" room. My sister had to escape from a window and run home. There is alot more to this story. I will find out the truth. I do want to say thank you to all. Your stories have helped me heal my wounds. I would like to extend my arms of friendship to all. This is just a short version of my life. My whole JW experience would take a book (maybe someday). Thank you for reading. I hope that my future post are as helpful to others as yours were to me.